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« on: January 23, 2012, 07:32:28 PM » |
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Not much whispering going on........ Drives me freaking crazy that people continue to buy into this as training. Watch the faces of these dogs--that tells you the story. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V99HA6_LG40 |
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Mom to Hazel, Tank and Omeshi. Cat: Sonny
Forever remembering Bob, Scout, Pete, Maude, Lola, Theo, Angel
In dog training, "jerk" is a noun, not a verb.
-Dr. Dennis Fetko
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2012, 09:29:05 PM » |
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The more I hear about or see this guy, the more I detest him. Is it wrong that I wished that the husky-esque (around the 2.30 mark) had of bit him?
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blanche
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 10:15:17 PM » |
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The more I hear about or see this guy, the more I detest him. Is it wrong that I wished that the husky-esque (around the 2.30 mark) had of bit him?
He has put dog training back 20 years. What bothers me the most about these videos are the looks on those dogs faces. There's no calm submission, no relaxed state, no happy compliance. None of those dogs are saying "Oh thank goodness, someone is taking charge". I see confusion, fear and shut down. I hate that he uses psychobabble to justify his methods and I REALLY hate the terrible comments people post to defend him. the assumption that he's saving dogs from being euthanized is just that--an assumption and I do wonder what those dogs lives are like under that kind of regimen. |
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Mom to Hazel, Tank and Omeshi. Cat: Sonny
Forever remembering Bob, Scout, Pete, Maude, Lola, Theo, Angel
In dog training, "jerk" is a noun, not a verb.
-Dr. Dennis Fetko
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 11:03:50 PM » |
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I agree completely with you. What he did to the bulldog is abuse in my books. Plain and simple. There's no way that dog is happy or relaxed. If he did that to a kid, there'd be hell to pay but it's "just a dog".
I heard of some trainer, not sure if it was this guy or someone else, that criticized an owner for using a harness on their dog. They stated it was what sled dogs used and not pets. Seems these "professionals" don't know very much about dogs. I blame Oprah for the above.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2012, 06:52:48 AM » |
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I couldn't watch that after the first 30seconds......horrible.
Could someone explain to me what the purpose of using "shock collars" is? This seems brutal and I know someone with a hunting dog who says they are used for "recall" in dogs who don't come when off leash.
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2012, 03:59:10 PM » |
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I couldn't watch that after the first 30seconds......horrible.
Could someone explain to me what the purpose of using "shock collars" is? This seems brutal and I know someone with a hunting dog who says they are used for "recall" in dogs who don't come when off leash.
It is brutal in my opinion. And I have never ever understood how it encourages recall. And most dogs are smart enough to know when the shock collar is on or not so you don't get recall when the collar is off. What the collar teaches dogs is that standing near the owner may avoid pain or end it. But it doesn't teach recall--just pain avoidance. Here is a very good link with what I consider a pretty balanced look at the use of them looking at both pros and cons. http://shibashake.com/dog/dog-shock-collar-good-bad |
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Mom to Hazel, Tank and Omeshi. Cat: Sonny
Forever remembering Bob, Scout, Pete, Maude, Lola, Theo, Angel
In dog training, "jerk" is a noun, not a verb.
-Dr. Dennis Fetko
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2012, 06:00:18 PM » |
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Just watched a bit of CM's dog brutalizing video. Sending the most powerful energy that I can muster for his karma to come soon. What could possibly be in the minds of humans, aside from having such an arrogant attitude of speciesism, to think that this is remotely ok? Absolutely heartbreaking and dispiriting
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2012, 06:30:35 PM » |
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it is pure arrogance!
not even his own dogs look relaxed. If you really look at them, they look fearful.
If you ever watch CM walking his dog with another, both are pulling away from him.
No dog learns respect by brutalizing them. A quiet but firm approach, that both shows
that you respect them and have compassion for them, is what works best over time, on most
canines.
It is sad that celebrities, public and corporations are perpetuating the cruelty, that not only CM shows, but
the other idiot that is on TV these days.
As for the "shock" collars...... really I would love to round up these people and see if they have
instant "recall" after wearing them. Perhaps the "recall" should be that they are nice to their pets!!
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